Guitar Rig 4

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    luna97
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    anyone else out there with Guitar Rig 4 ? I have updated from a lite version and am having a fantastic time trying out all the features……love the effects. Makes practising much more fun though I think more time is being spent mucking around with sounds than actual practice.

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    Sean Conklin
    Sean Conklin
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    haha yeah don’t forget to practice. The sounds that come out of modeling software truly are amazing these days. Getting more and more realistic as time goes on.

    I haven’t really had Guitar Rig experience, been more of a Line 6 guy myself. I’ve heard great things about it though. Have fun! šŸ™‚

    Tried all the software, but finally settled on using an actual amp and cabinet impulses for a far more realistic tone than anything else I’ve tried.

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    luna97
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    well, I cant go out and buy heaps of amps and since I love making sounds rather than playing full songs this way is much cheaper! I would like to find a real amp that becomes a favourite but that will have to wait.

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    billmeedog
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    Hey Guys, šŸ™‚

    Well I’m of the belief that in the future, modeling amps/software will enjoy an increased market-share in the MI-market. However, real amps (mostly tube/valve-amps!) will ALWAYS hold their value and will ALWAYS have their user’s (especially for players/pros who DO NOT need a thousand MIDI/Controller options in real-time! šŸ˜‰ After all, most great players make their mark with (at most) 3 sounds – Clean, Edge, Overdrive/Distortion! šŸ˜‰

    ~Bill Meehan~ šŸ™‚

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    legatofix
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    I’m seriously tempted by IK Multimedia’s AmpliTube3….drool:

    http://www.ikmultimedia.com/amplitube/features/

    Well, either way you go, I would HIGHLY recommend anyone to try going with impulses instead of the built in cab-sims, these things are just bounds and leaps above even GR4 OR AT3 in that department.
    I have yet to experiment using only the preamp sections from either fo those, but have tried Revalver MKIII with the impulses loaded with great results (I just like being able to fiddle with a “real” amp hehe)

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    luna97
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    okay I seem to be getting the impression from reading magazine reviews, forums etc that using software programs instead of real instruments is not what alot of musicians like to do….the real instrument being better but I am looking at it from the view that I want to both play and listen to songs,phrases,riffs etc using lots of different sounds and instruments. I like experimenting with the same piece of music played using many different instruments. I have always been interested in how sound is produced.
    Having a home studio setup with a MAudio Prokeys keyboard, monitor speakers, Cakewalk’sSonar, guitar and amp etc means I can play around with a huge range of instruments and sounds. I cant afford to buy lots of instruments ( and then learn to play them all in a reasonable time frame) so software like Guitar Rig, Amplitube, Addictive Drums and many others lets me have a fantastic time. If I only wanted to play in a set style with a few variations of sound effects then maybe it is better to go for a real amp but for people like me software programs are just heaven.But I suppose I should confess that I started playing the guitar because the virtual guitars werent the same as actually playing a real guitar…..

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    billmeedog
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    @luna97 11521 wrote:

    okay I seem to be getting the impression from reading magazine reviews, forums etc that using software programs instead of real instruments is not what alot of musicians like to do….the real instrument being better but I am looking at it from the view that I want to both play and listen to songs,phrases,riffs etc using lots of different sounds and instruments. I like experimenting with the same piece of music played using many different instruments. I have always been interested in how sound is produced.
    Having a home studio setup with a MAudio Prokeys keyboard, monitor speakers, Cakewalk’sSonar, guitar and amp etc means I can play around with a huge range of instruments and sounds. I cant afford to buy lots of instruments ( and then learn to play them all in a reasonable time frame) so software like Guitar Rig, Amplitube, Addictive Drums and many others lets me have a fantastic time. If I only wanted to play in a set style with a few variations of sound effects then maybe it is better to go for a real amp but for people like me software programs are just heaven.But I suppose I should confess that I started playing the guitar because the virtual guitars werent the same as actually playing a real guitar…..

    Hi Luna, šŸ™‚

    As I had said, modeling/virtual instruments have a strong future! šŸ˜‰

    IMHO, they DEFINITELY have their applications, and subsequently they’re perfect for certain musicians’ setups/environments! If you enjoy the sound-quality, versatility, and all of the options that modeling/virtual instruments have to offer, then you should use them, right?!? šŸ˜Ž

    In other words, if one can draw inspiration to play/compose/record or perform-live from a given audio-tool, then THAT makes it a perfect tool for that musician! šŸ˜‰

    Best of luck bro! šŸ˜‰

    ~Bill Meehan~ šŸ˜€

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    luna97
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    oh well, as long there is always a mix of both then we will all be happy

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    Krayfish
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    I use Git Rig 3, and a couple Amplitude plug-ins for recording at home. There are no external mics I can keep it in my headphones or monitors. Line 6 flextones (soon to be Carvin xb100’s), but the consistency is usually quite similar. Whatever get’s it out there with the sounds in your head!!
    šŸ˜€

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    luna97
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    it’s certainly easier for me not to have to figure out mic placements etc. will learn all that at a later date. so much to do and not enough spare time…..

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    ShadyDave
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    I’ve actually got GR4, Amplitube 3 and was recently given a Guitar Port/Pod Farm by a friend of mine……..so trying to be at least 50% objective about their comparative qualities I would say that in terms of overall ease of use and tone then Pod Farm beats out both of the others.

    That’s not to say that they’re bad per se…Guitar Rig has wonderful clean sounds and the routing options are nothing short of amazing. Amplitube’s mic/cabinet selection are truly great…..but while Pod Farm doesn’t have as many effects (without buying extra modelling packs) I’m firmly of the opinion that the base tones are the best of the bunch – given you can add extra effects through VST’s if required then it gets my vote.

    Of course, a dedicated recording preamp/pedal (like the AMT SS-20, or Damage Control Demonizer) running into IR’s (Voxengo, Redwired etc) and other VST’s might be better yet but I’ll let you know how that goes when I get around to picking up a preamp šŸ™‚

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    luna97
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    I found it difficult when I first started out with computer music software to decide on what I wanted or even needed. My first choices probably arent the best for what I like doing and hope to achieve but with no actual prior knowledge even all the advice from music magazines, software reviews etc is hit and miss. I ended up going down the cakewalk sonar, guitar rig path all because my edirol interface came with a LE version of sonar etc. and then I got tempted with the upgrade offers they sent. So their marketing worked!
    Anyway I have to control the urge to try heaps of different stuff and just concentrate on getting the best I can out of what I first chose since it would be daft to waste money and time trying too many different products. ( though it would be great to give it a go….)
    I dont think there is any easy answer myself to choosing gear, its just how it is.
    Hope everyone has fun with all their choices.

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